Char said:It's interesting when you put "complete self " into the NGA color search box and bring up the one daylily registered as a complete self it appears to have black anthers.
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Solar Scream')
https://www.daylilies.org/Dayl...
Frillylily said:
I gave up using the search feature here, it doesn't work at all for me. Maybe I am misunderstanding your comment here, but are you saying that only ONE daylily is registered w AHS as a complete self? When I went to AHS website, to advanced search there isnt' even an option to search for selfs, or complete selfs that I can find. So if a person only wanted those, how would one go about sorting to find them? I have selfs and complete selfs in my garden and I love them, Ones w lots of patterns and edges usually don't stay here long. I find the older ones are more solid in color, the newer ones being registered tend to be more focused on patterns and such.
DaylilyDazzled said:I am guessing these are complete selves I have
Jerusalum
sooby said:
I was referring to Greg's comment that was embedded in your post, i.e. that selfs are rare, and just pointing out that over a quarter of all registrations appear to be selfs. I actually didn't expect there to be that many, I don't know why because of course the original daylily species were yellow or orangey selfs, with the obvious exception of the fulvous species. Some of the registered selfs must be complete selfs but how many out of the 26k I have no idea.
I suspect that the term "complete self" is in the Daylily Dictionary because it came from the glossary of the 1968 Daylily Handbook. Examples of complete selfs given in the Handbook are 'Cartwheels' and 'Bride'. In the Handbook 'Frances Fay' and 'Queen of Hearts' are examples of just selfs.
Registration instructions only refer to "self", don't require registrants to distinguish, and obviously they haven't been doing so since the term has been around for decades yet there is only one registration using it, and that was as recently as 2018.
Seedfork said:It was not the wording in particular that stated antheres, but from the link you included, if you click on "Stamen" then the diagram it brings up does show the antheres are included as part of the stamen of course. So you just wonder if it were actually meant to include them.
Frillylily said:So I tried another search here at NGA using evergreen, red, and 1999. I got no results. I went to AHS website and advance searched those same 3 things and got 72 results(8 pgs). Some of them look to not fit the description in that only the eye pattern is red, but most of them are red. All of them are 1999. The search feature here just does not work.
Frillylily said:Searching Daylilies
Choose your various options below, then click Search to view plants that match all the selected options. Note that your search results will only include plants that match EVERY option you select.
Results: Search query:
Bloom time: Midseason
Plant Traits: Diurnal
Bloom Traits: Diamond Dusted
Flower Color: Pink
No results found. Your query may have been too specific. Try removing some of the options and try again.
Well here's how my searches go. Searched for midseason, day opening, diamond dusted pink daylilies. Got no results. Makes no sense to me. Obviously there are many many daylilies that should be fitting that bill. Anytime I use the search here on NGA, the more options I choose, I get no results at all. If I only choose one or two options, I still get results that I know are wrong.