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Feb 3, 2020 6:42 AM CST
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MrKGDickie said:

I meant complete selfs in particular. Like you posted above, there's one daylily registered as a complete self. Many of those 26K selfs seem to have different-colored throats, or pistil and stamens, and so aren't complete selfs. THOSE are what I was referring to as rare.


I was referring to Greg's comment that was embedded in your post, i.e. that selfs are rare, and just pointing out that over a quarter of all registrations appear to be selfs. I actually didn't expect there to be that many, I don't know why because of course the original daylily species were yellow or orangey selfs, with the obvious exception of the fulvous species. Some of the registered selfs must be complete selfs but how many out of the 26k I have no idea.

I suspect that the term "complete self" is in the Daylily Dictionary because it came from the glossary of the 1968 Daylily Handbook. Examples of complete selfs given in the Handbook are 'Cartwheels' and 'Bride'. In the Handbook 'Frances Fay' and 'Queen of Hearts' are examples of just selfs.

Registration instructions only refer to "self", don't require registrants to distinguish, and obviously they haven't been doing so since the term has been around for decades yet there is only one registration using it, and that was as recently as 2018.
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