Thanks for the advice, Maurice. Hopefully I'll have an actual seedling bed next year. But I really have no ambition beyond creating healthy plants with scapes that will hold on a 45 degree slope. That is my garden. Which is what motivated me to want to hybridize. So, I won't give up those things just to create a mind blowing patterned face. Hopefully I can add some icing (patterning) to the cake along the way. We shall see.