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Jan 15, 2017 5:02 PM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
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Here's some photos of I guess you'd call it my 'nursery'


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Jan 15, 2017 8:28 PM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
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Looks like you have a real project going there. Some of those look to be on their way. I suspect when the weather warms up, the tiny guys will be going strong. Thumbs up Have pics of some of these plants when they are fully mature. Would like to see what they'll turn into.

BTW Baja....very proud of myself. I found all 16!

Have a great night all,
AG
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Jan 15, 2017 8:42 PM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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Thanks AG, I'm sure they'll take off soon. If the sun would ever come back out it sure would help Grumbling Hopefully spring will roll around sooner this year and I can move the whole shelf system I made for the succulents outside.
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Jan 18, 2017 3:28 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Wet look day returns here once more, raining with matching winds. As much as I don't like the howling wind sound, it will help the succulents as they get drenched again. Temps was at 46F, ..hmm went down a bit more haizz Rolling my eyes.

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Jan 18, 2017 8:36 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Mother Nature busy chopping off my Aeoniums, with her strong winds gusts and rains today.
On the good side, with some indoor dry time, and the weather still cool outdoors, there is time to replant these later after I further chop them shorter, but will wait for the rains to move away next week.

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Jan 19, 2017 12:15 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Checking this morning, more cuttings from my Aeonium and an epi, courtesy of Mother Nature's tempest last night:
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Remaining soggy Aeoniums in their containers, good there is a break in the rains right now, just a bit of dry out time much needed, before part two of more rains comes in tonight:

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Senecios, Sedums, Crassulas, Gasterias and Haworthias are still doing good surprisingly. All soggy wet, but not showing any signs yet of rotting, hopefully it just continues on, got two more episodes of rain expected before that big ball of light comes back by next Wednesday yet.
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Jan 21, 2017 10:55 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
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Hi gang,
Everyone's succulents look beautiful and what damage there is seems to be impermanent. Tarev, I love your patio. It is so pretty and such a nice space.

As for here we are getting battered with the same wind, rain, and cold temps. A lot of the plants have benefited from the rain but enough already.
There's a few I have to dig up and pot and bring indoors to dry so they don't rot.

The Agave and Aloes can handle the rain but only if they have a chance to dry out in-between. Our temps have been an average of 6-10 degrees below normal day and night. (41 last night). The skies overcast, gray and virtually no sun.

Only a few more days of this rain then the sun will be back and the daytime temps normal. Only problem is the nights are still below normal and the ground wet. Believe it or not I will be covering plants a few nights.

Hate to bum everyone out but that's just the status here.

I'll end on a positive note. Thumbs up

On the plus side the Mammillarias are thriving and just loving this. They have grown exponentially and in the most visible way. They look like plump little overstuffed sausages! Happy plants. Lovey dubby

Also on the plus side, with the exception of just few plants, I won't have to water until late May or June. Hurray!

Have a good day all.
Stay warm and try to stay dry.

AG
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Jan 21, 2017 11:18 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Yes I am glad the damage is not that much on my outdoor succulents. Rains are coming at intervals, very much welcome, and sun is trying to peek, even better. Just the tandem of cold winds and an already soggy plant is nasty.

Oh, I love not watering too! Woohoo! And rainwater is so good for those succulents that thrive in the cold weather. I am collecting some of the rainwater too, my carnivores would be very happy Big Grin

Got to wait for the usual longer dry out time by Tuesday yet, though it returns our overnights to the mid to low 30's, not the best either for already soggy plants, but got to think of something good, at least it is not into the low 20's, that would be a killer if it turns like that.

My only Agave here, Agave geminifolia, it is taking the rains and fluctuating temps quite well, it is in that shallow container and I have it facing south and against that low brick fence:

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Just some old dried out bottom leaves, which is okay, it is the older leaves, and I hope it helps protect the base too somehow. But I do see the cacti beside it is not happy at all getting way too soggy. Keeping fingers crossed it will try to survive, not going to move it, just letting it endure the weather.
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Jan 22, 2017 10:00 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
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Good morning gang,

Tarev.........
For what it is worth I do believe your Agave will be fine. As for the little cacti keeping it company I would seriously think about popping it out and putting it in a tiny pot with completely dry soil for awhile and letting it sit in a very sunny spot indoors. Doesn't seem like it would take up much space. It will probably thank you for the kindness.

I've done this with 3 African Zipper plants, the Mangave and one other. Since it is supposed to rain day after tomorrow I just may bring a few more in. Last of the bad news weather is that the 25th-28th night temps are going to be in the 30s. Grumbling

Since the ground is already wet, the plants cold, and there's been no sun I will be covering. Should the temps drop just 2 or 3 degrees I'll have a frost bitten mess on my hands

On the plus side.......the good weather is to come immediately after. Thumbs up I did a 'look-see' at the weather for February. Not that one can have total faith in weather projected so far ahead but give or take a few degrees either way both the day and night temps are normal with temps only going up incrementally.

The plants will be nowhere in the danger zone. Also the forecast shows the days as completely sunny with only a random day or two of overcast days. And yippee NO RAIN for the whole month. Hurray!

What's in store for you? Something good real soon I hope. Crossing Fingers!

Here's a pic of the plants I brought in. Not the best time to snap the pic as it was getting dark on that side of my house but you get the idea. Oh...in case you're wondering, that is a metal sculpture of dancing frogs. I just found them amusing.

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In these bottom pics, the plant on the right is the one (name unknown to me) that I decide to bring in as well. It was turning some kind of weird blue-brown-purple color on top. I wasn't liking the looks of that.

Next to it is the Agave (Artic Lights?) that has become my permanent indoor plant. I discovered from my previous ones Whistling it neither likes our sun, nor the extreme heat or cold snaps. Bit of a prima donna. But it is thriving indoors and produced three pups so a house plant it will stay.

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AG
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Jan 22, 2017 11:33 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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The worst of the storm has passed us, the strong winds last night was scary for me though, more for the trees that thankfully held on. Finally seeing some slivers of blue skies but there are still clouds hovering.

Oh I will just leave that cacti there, it seems happier with the cooler temps, and dry out time is coming. As long as temps will not go below 30F, they are okay. Been watching forecasts as long as nothing in the 20F's, the plants can handle it better.

AG, your plant seems to look like Euphorbia meloformis cristata : http://www.cactus-art.biz/sche...
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Jan 22, 2017 2:21 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Glad to see some nice colorful hues from some of my soggy cold succulents:
Kleinia petraea
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Aeonium
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Jan 22, 2017 3:12 PM CST
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Succulence!

We are in between storms at the moment and at times like this I realize why I put so much rock in the mix. The soil spends quite a bit of time saturated during these winter rain events, unlike when I am in charge of the watering.

Here's a young Graptoveria with a drinking problem (too much of a good thing).



Some flowers, and a couple of winter growers doing their thing.

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Jan 25, 2017 11:11 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
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Nice Baja! Just gorgeous.

Not much going on here. The rain ended day before yesterday so the drenching is over. Now the last hurdle. Yesterday, today and the next 3 days! Literally freezing temps between 32-37F. Grumbling So nothing going on here except the plants are covered and will remain so.

Good news on the horizon though! After these few days pass there's nothing but dry , sunshine, and increasingly warmer temps for both day and night. Hurray!

Also in anticipation of this great weather, I have 2 luscious Agaves I just purchased. Can't wait for next week. Both are A. geminiflora. Does anyone know a whole lot about this plant?

When I searched for a list of Agaves that can take 110+ heat and full sun, this Agave's name popped up. Little bit of conflicting information as one said 100% full sun and the other said it needs some shade. Shrug! Said nothing about how often/when to water.

Facts and help would be appreciated before I plant these.

Pics. One even came with a complimentary weed and overly curious dog. Rolling my eyes.


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Jan 25, 2017 11:38 AM CST
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Mine is in full (Florida) sun and thriving.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:10 PM CST
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Mine is doing well in full (mild coastal) sun.

The habitat of that plant gets a lot of rain (almost 40 inches a year) with a dry spring. I would think it would do better than most agaves with lots of water, given good drainage of course. Greg Starr put the plant on his list of ten most mesic (ie. not xeric) agave species. It might not be a hard core desert plant, though it does pretty well with our summer drought. Without water the plant looks a little sad, but then it perks right back up again after it rains.
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Jan 25, 2017 4:29 PM CST
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I would try one in the ground in full sun, put it in relatively well draining soil (so amend if necessary) and just give it extra extra water in the summer, and as with almost all plants be prepared to cover it in the summer - as the first summer will be tough no matter what the plant is.

The other I would keep in a pot so you can move it around but still give it as much sun as possible. Then if the experiment with the plant in the ground works you can plop the other one right in as well in a nice sunny spot.

Took a chance last night and decided I was too lazy to cover my plants. Most of my potted plants are in shade structures that are covered with plastic so they are not wet, which made me feel less bad about not going out there to cover them up. The in the ground stuff of course still had wet feet, but that is usually less of an issue.

This morning things looked OK, tonight is supposed to be the coldest night for me this week, so I might bring blankets out for a few plants (I think this might be the last time I can actually effectively cover my E. tirucalli 'Firesticks, which is probably one of the more tender plants I have in the ground), many Aloes have flower spikes so really hard to cover them, they may have to deal...

Clearly this was not the right winter to try my Adenium Obesum in the ground experiment... though the plant still looks fine.
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Jan 25, 2017 5:44 PM CST
Name: tarev
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We have been dipping into the 30F to 39F overnight since December. I do not cover the plants left outside here. So far they are holding. Even after our incessant rains this winter, since it does make the temps warm-up after the rains. Well, maybe except for the Aeoniums, some had too much wetness already, but they perk up fast once the dry conditions return. I just move the smaller containers closer to the house or against the low brick fence.

No rains in sight till 01Feb for us yey!..that should be enough dry out time, with cold overnight temps in the 30F's. I think my plants are hardened enough already, so they are able to bear it.
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Jan 26, 2017 11:03 AM CST
Name: Agavegirl1
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Weather report and plant survival sounding good. Thumbs up

Still have mine covered. We had a hard frost last night. As it is, covering and uncovering takes about an hour. So I've been lazy and have left things covered all day. Plan on doing so for the next 3 as well.

Once these last 3 day pass I can get out in the yard and do some work with my plants and some shuffling around and logistic things that need done. The plants that I brought in for the last week or so will take up their homes again outside. The weeds await also. Rolling my eyes.

Thijs........I'll take you up on the one A. geminiflora in the ground and one in a pot. Makes sense. I'm just tired of digging holes and moving things constantly so I was hoping for a more a more definitive answer.

Hetty....glad yours is doing well in the sun. For some reason I am thinking the sun in FL is a lot kinder here and your humidity is bound to help considerably also.
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Jan 27, 2017 11:19 AM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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Thoughts on planting this large Aloe in my yard this spring. Will it survive the upcoming winter if I get it in the ground early enough to acclimate itself and root? What kind of lighting would it need to be in? The pot it's in now needs to be replaced again as it's falling apart.

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Jan 27, 2017 2:32 PM CST
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Chris, how low are your lows generally? If wet, that Aloe probably gets damaged in the high 20s, if dry it can probably take mid to low 20s, without too much damage (some frozen leaves and or flower spikes), once well rooted it might survive lower Ts, but would get severely damaged. That is assuming you reach above freezing Ts during the day.
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