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Sep 3, 2017 7:42 AM CST
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Utah (Zone 7a)
Bright Edge has blue centered leaves and bright yellow edges as the name projects. The variegation on these plants in both the pictures look inverted... with yellow in the middle and green edges similar to Yucca 'Color Guard'
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Sep 3, 2017 2:12 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Thank you for the information SpringGreenThumb.
Another mislabeled plant at a nursery. Sad
I'll remove the photos.
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Sep 3, 2017 3:36 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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Lynn, they're good pics. Why don't you put them in the generic Yucca section?
Yucca
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Sep 3, 2017 4:33 PM CST
Thread OP
Utah (Zone 7a)
It happens to all of us. 😂
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Sep 3, 2017 4:38 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Hi Karen. I did move them to the Yucca entry.
It is amazing how many plants are tagged incorrectly at nurseries.
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Sep 3, 2017 8:36 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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I agree A number of the new plants I've gotten in the last year have had bad ID's. Even our local botanical garden has inaccurate signing. I mentioned it to them and was told it was too expensive to keep changing the name tags because they changed too frequently.
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Sep 3, 2017 11:31 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Sad
I just found out that one of my new plants goes by a different name than what was on the tag.
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Sep 4, 2017 6:56 AM CST
Thread OP
Utah (Zone 7a)
I submit plants to the database according to the tag and I get told it's the wrong one.

I really appreciate folks who know more than I do.... and I don't intend to offend folks when I feel I know something about a plant that they don't.
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Sep 4, 2017 6:59 AM CST
Thread OP
Utah (Zone 7a)
We all need each other.... in order to make Garden.org what it was intended to be.
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Sep 4, 2017 12:06 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
SpringGreenThumb said:We all need each other.... in order to make Garden.org what it was intended to be.


I agree, that is how I learn new things. I never take offense if some one tells me I have a plant named incorrectly.
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Sep 4, 2017 12:14 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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If I question an ID I prefer to do a little research on the data base and look at google and then drop the person who added the picture in question a friendly tree-mail....
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Sep 4, 2017 12:23 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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That is also a great way to do it. But I really love that we can do it this way also. I love the information that can come up in this format.
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Sep 5, 2017 12:24 AM CST
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Utah (Zone 7a)
valleylynn said:That is also a great way to do it. But I really love that we can do it this way also. I love the information that can come up in this format.


I agree... because often there is a 3rd party professional member who knows more than both of us.

A private mail can be nice but it can also end up as "That's what the tag said". And then neither of us really know why it looks different.

It's nice to have the professionals and mods that can explain any anomalies in that variety so both readers and members can better understand if it helps.
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Sep 5, 2017 8:41 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I agree
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Sep 5, 2017 8:49 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Region: New Mexico Region: Arizona Region: Ukraine Cactus and Succulents Plant Identifier Plays in the sandbox
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I think we learn a lot more when we allow participation from all members. I hate it when people say "I'll treemail you about such and such."
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Sep 5, 2017 9:02 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I think both methods are alright. Some people don't like to discuss things in public. They are embarrassed about having something wrong. I understand why Paul does it that way. He has a very tender heart and doesn't want to cause anyone to feel uncomfortable.
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Sep 5, 2017 11:15 AM CST
Thread OP
Utah (Zone 7a)
That's certainly something to consider...

How folks might "feel".

In the past; I may have been less likely to notice how someone might feel if they are told publicly if their picture is wrong.

It's not a big deal when it happens to me, it doesn't hurt my feelings because I know I'm not perfect... and I never assume others think I am perfect. 😂 So no harm done when someone tells me I'm not. 😁


Anyway, I forget it can be a sensitive issue for some folks. I appreciate Paul for reminding us. 👍🏻
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Sep 5, 2017 11:17 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Region: New Mexico Region: Arizona Region: Ukraine Cactus and Succulents Plant Identifier Plays in the sandbox
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I have had wrong ID's on several of my new purchases. I put them in and didn't feel bad when they were corrected. Zuzu let me know it was a common problem and not to worry. We all learn and our database stays as current as possible.
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Sep 5, 2017 1:13 PM CST
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Utah (Zone 7a)
Incidentally at the exact moment I was saying this picture looked wrong someone else was telling me my Yarrow picture was not "Cloth of Gold". But instead "Tansy". 😂

And sure enough... she was correct. My Yarrow is Tansy and it was moved to the correct location.

I also try to Title the thread saying
"It doesn't look like." Instead of "Wrong ID". Especially when I'm not an expert on this species. Regardless of what it looks like.... there is a possibility the picture is still correct and I'm open to being informed as such.
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Sep 5, 2017 1:35 PM CST
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Late to this conversation, just a couple of things to add.

I see no reason to keep a misidentification issue private since the relevant image is public. To each their own of course, this is just my point of view. The public stands to benefit from witnessing the discussion, even if they don't join in. If it's an obvious entry error (like two images in sequence whose tags are switched) then I would make the contact privately in order to reduce noise on the forums.

What is interesting to me is that people have sometimes taken my requests that images be moved in quite the opposite way of how they were intended, like as some personal affront instead of a gentle suggestion open to feedback. While I always have something I can refine about my language or approach, I do not see any other positive outcome from this kind of response. Especially when an admin has to become involved to resolve it. It arises from a fundamental misunderstanding about the way the site functions -- to quote the line above which is most apt, we all need each other.

As I have seen in excess with certain plants (tagged by nurseries under the wrong name, and always the same wrong name) it can be quite helpful that the ID questions remain public because then the other users of the site are alerted about the potential issue. And I do think it's important to ask for feedback rather than simply asserting contrary truth, it just levels out the playing field and invites continued participation. And rather than titling the thread "Wrong ID" I would prefer to title it "ID question". Those are considerations of tact, really. Fully realized by the participants in this thread, of course. Smiling
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