Davi said:
Another observation: The parents of THE FANTASTIC BARBARA WATTS are unknown x unknown. Before using a plant, it is extremely useful to know who both the parents and the grandparents are....looking for signs of poor color, bad plant habit, or TET conversions in order to make an educated choice in using any cultivar to achieve hybridizing goals. Crossing one pretty face x another pretty face does not translate into pretty kids with good plant habits.
Davi said: Maurice can explain the influence better than I can on future generations from a TET conversion.
admmad said:I'll try to explain.
@Davi Are any of these the other parent(s) in the cross(es)?
MERMAID'S SPELL,
A LOT LIKE LOVE
CURT'S GIFT
MAMA DRAMA
CHICAGO GIRLS
CONFESSIONS OF A HEMAHOLIC
CAROLINA COOL DOWN
TICKLE FINGERS
CELEBRATING WOMEN
kousa said:Judy, you the best! Thank you for a very thorough answer! I have forgotten how long it takes to grow a seedling to introduction. With 6 years being the average, this would be about the time and perhaps a bit early that we should see more introductions with the The Fantastic Barbara Watts as a parent. And Trina just backed it up with Bell's intro of Frozen Patterns. When I started buying seeds in 2016, its crosses were very expensive and sometimes went over a $100 for 5 seeds. Before I was used to the high prices, I was quite shocked at how much some of the bids went up for them. They cost even more than tet RFK at the time. I have been following The Fantastic Barbara Watts daylily with interest in its offspring since then to see whether the seeds have proven their worth in cost for its seeds buyers. Thus the above questions. Thanks again, Judy for an insightful and thoughtful response!
Seedfork said:I did find quite a few Salter plants registered as (unknown x Unknown), many that did not even refer to parentage at all, but still quite a few that actually list the parentage.
Example: Bay of Storms (Salter, 2014)
height 32 in.(81 cm), bloom 5.75 in.(15 cm), season M, Rebloom, Semi-Evergreen, Tetraploid, Pale rose lavender with a large blue violet eye and cream edge that contains some teeth. ((The Colorado Kid × God Save the Queen) × Storm at Sea)
I don't know what that indicates? Poor records or doesn't think it is important or lots of digger critters in the garden?
I think I showed 10 Salter plants in my list of plants and only three of them showed the parentage.